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 Post subject: [Twenty Festivals] Goju Kumoru
PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:25 pm 
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Friend won packs, pulled this...

Goju Kumoru

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Kumoru's followers must be Ninja

Ninja Open: Create a battlefield (not at any province). Assign Kumoru to attack there and and another player's target unbowed personalities to defend there. Fight a battle there. Battle resolution will not destroy personalities. Lose two honor.

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I dont know if it is insane or not but It feels like real Goju jank... plus that art...

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 Post subject: Re: [Twenty Festivals] Goju Kumoru
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Seemingly Yurishi is not a fluke and the co-operation between the Goju/Ninube and the Spider won't end. Curious ...

I'm not a huge fan of animal-headed humanoids, they remind me too much of Kali-Ma's elephantmen, but if it has to be an animal head, it should be a Spider indeed.

And seeing that our ninja keep their junky nature is actually nice. If the DT envisioned it right and our players can make a ninja deck work and win some story prizes for us.

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 Post subject: Re: [Twenty Festivals] Goju Kumoru
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Needs more Leopardon.

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 Post subject: Re: [Twenty Festivals] Goju Kumoru
PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:32 pm 
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Lose two honor.
Well, that's a shame. Probably good for Scorpion.


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 Post subject: Re: [Twenty Festivals] Goju Kumoru
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hachrt wrote:
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Lose two honor.
Well, that's a shame. Probably good for Scorpion.


Its a repeatable ambush on a 6G personality.


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 Post subject: Re: [Twenty Festivals] Goju Kumoru
PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:45 pm 
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I guess if you can get Naval + Kill action + Conqueror on this guy he is okay.

Otherwise, I'm not entirely sure about his utility?

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 Post subject: Re: [Twenty Festivals] Goju Kumoru
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I think the idea for ninja so far is pure board control. Between him, Shiho, and Goju Falcon Punch that's a lot of hard control. Just run the sensei and some beefy weaponry and this can be great.


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 Post subject: Re: [Twenty Festivals] Goju Kumoru
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B-Rad wrote:
I think the idea for ninja so far is pure board control. Between him, Shiho, and Goju Falcon Punch that's a lot of hard control. Just run the sensei and some beefy weaponry and this can be great.


Which sensei were your figuring to use him with?

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 Post subject: Re: [Twenty Festivals] Goju Kumoru
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Taitaken. Ability ---> Sneak → Sensei. Nuke a guy on their turn


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 Post subject: Re: [Twenty Festivals] Goju Kumoru
PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:26 pm 
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I, actually, really like this guy and can see a lot of potential with him.

Have to see some more support before I'm 100%.

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 Post subject: Re: [Twenty Festivals] Goju Kumoru
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Step 1 Get a couple of Tairo's

Step 2 Get a Kumoru

Step 3 Chi death stuff

Step 4 lol like crazy

Step 5 Profit

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 Post subject: Re: [Twenty Festivals] Goju Kumoru
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TheItsyBitsySpider wrote:
Step 1 Get a couple of Tairo's

Step 2 Get a Kumoru

Step 3 Chi death stuff

Step 4 lol like crazy

Step 5 Profit

Agreed. You can always just use Strike as the Earth to kill them in the Engage and use Disappearing World Style to GTFO.

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 Post subject: Re: [Twenty Festivals] Goju Kumoru
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kakita_shiro wrote:
TheItsyBitsySpider wrote:
Step 1 Get a couple of Tairo's

Step 2 Get a Kumoru

Step 3 Chi death stuff

Step 4 lol like crazy

Step 5 Profit

Agreed. You can always just use Strike as the Earth to kill them in the Engage and use Disappearing World Style to GTFO.


Strike as the Earth only has Chi penalty as a Battle action :evil:

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 Post subject: Re: [Twenty Festivals] Goju Kumoru
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Ambush on a stick is interesting, but as you don't kill in resolution, you'd better have some way of whacking whomever you're jumping or else it's a waste of 2 Honor.

But that is the risk vs. reward in Ambush, and not something I have an issue with.

As noted, some way to give him Naval or just using Sneak Attack will increase his value quite a bit.

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 Post subject: Re: [Twenty Festivals] Goju Kumoru
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Edit: didn't read the attack/defend part, he'll need conq to ne most effective


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 Post subject: Re: [Twenty Festivals] Goju Kumoru
PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:50 am 
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His ability is open, so on their turn you can simply force their guy to attack, and if you can't kill him you can simply eject and his unit will bow in resolution. There's no open unit straighten, so at the very least your opponent is out a card or 2 to straighten him, best case is he now can't attack or defend (or you have a way to kill him)


He's still the attacker. Their guy won't bow regardless of whose turn it is.


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 Post subject: Re: [Twenty Festivals] Goju Kumoru
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Love it.

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 Post subject: Re: [Twenty Festivals] Goju Kumoru
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Holding previewed that makes dudes naval


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 Post subject: Re: [Twenty Festivals] Goju Kumoru
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I feel dirty just considering this, but...

I'm beginning to build a Chi-Death, Lock Down, Ambush deck with Kobi Sensei. Just to see if it can be done.

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 Post subject: Re: [Twenty Festivals] Goju Kumoru
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sndwurks wrote:
I feel dirty just considering this, but...

I'm beginning to build a Chi-Death, Lock Down, Ambush deck with Kobi Sensei. Just to see if it can be done.


I'm building a chi death gank for days deck, but Kobi sounds like it could work as well...

There are a bunch of cool concepts that I am seeing thrown around with this card, I have one sitting on my desk right now, waiting to be boarder broken but while I dont know yet if the rest of 20F will really give it the fate support it needs but I know at least one janky assassin deck will be coming and that alone will be fun to play.

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 Post subject: Re: [Twenty Festivals] Goju Kumoru
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The main weakness of the Kobi deck currently is that it takes 9 turns to win, minimum. But provided you can kill / lock down enough of their personalities, you should be able to crush any Military deck. Honor and Dishonor... depends on the environment.

Holding Cells, Touch of Death, Tairao, Kumoru, Shihei, Ambush...

You basically scoop vs Dishonor, but you should be able to lock down Military pretty hard. Add some cheap courtiers, and you might be able to Dishonor bait the Honor runner down enough to win.

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 Post subject: Re: [Twenty Festivals] Goju Kumoru
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:54 am 
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Any swarm beats kobi. Don't try and make it a win condition. Instead, use it as a means to stop reserve! It totally cancels out that lion reserve sensei! :D

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 Post subject: Re: [Twenty Festivals] Goju Kumoru
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Sparks wrote:
Don't try and make it a win condition. Instead, use it as a means to stop reserve! It totally cancels out that lion reserve sensei! :D

Also to guarantee going 2nd to get the good side of the box.

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 Post subject: Re: [Twenty Festivals] Goju Kumoru
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That's why I am planning on using Kobi in my swarm deck. Guaranteed going 2nd, and shuts down Reserve.

I'm just curious if I can bring back SOLID.

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 Post subject: Re: [Twenty Festivals] Goju Kumoru
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It will be nice to see you, of all people, play kolat spider. You know, considering Naishi ;)

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