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 Post subject: Shadowlands Deck Needs Help!
PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:46 pm 
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Former player coming back. My new Spider Clan Deck. Name of card and how many. x2 for example would be two of that card. Please leave comments and ideas how to improve it. Thanks!

Stronghold: The Hidden Bastion of the Spider

Fate:
Nezumi Remnants x2
Kikage Zumi Initiates x 3
Zlkyt's Family x2
Everpresent Fear x3
Startling Kai x3
Ancestral Armor of the Spider Clan
Bound Spirit x3
Streets of the Second City x2
Overwhelming Offense
Okura is Released x2
Skeletal Troops x3
Flight of No Mind x2
Tested Blade x3
Ring of Air
Dirty Tricks x2
Assassin's Strike
Way of the Spider x2

Dynasty:
Daigotsu Onosaku x3
Kokujin Gunjao x3
Daigotsu Meguro x3
Daigotsu Atsushi x3
The Inner Ring x2
Daigotsu Geiko x2
Daigotsu Roburo x3
Daigotsu Takahide
Counting House
Bountiful Fields x3
Carrion's Breath x3
Slave Pits x3
Shinomen Marsh x3
Nexus of Lies x2
Ninube Shiho
Daigotsu Teruo x2
Daigotsu Kampeki, The Shadow Emperor
Goju Yurishi


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 Post subject: Re: Shadowlands Deck Needs Help!
PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:20 pm 
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The deck seems to be a little all over the place. What are your goals for the deck?

ONE SHIHO?!?!?!?!?!?!?! :cry:

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 Post subject: Re: Shadowlands Deck Needs Help!
PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:24 am 
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It looks like a modified starter, Sparks.

That being said, Shiho is probably Spider's best personality. Do your best to get the playset ASAP. If you don't mind the honor loss, then look for 3x House of Disgrace.


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 Post subject: Re: Shadowlands Deck Needs Help!
PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 4:00 am 
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MirumotoDaisuke wrote:
It looks like a modified starter, Sparks.



Ok, that makes a lot of sense then. lol

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 Post subject: Re: Shadowlands Deck Needs Help!
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It's 20 festival deck plus added cards.

Fear attack deck is what I was thinking.


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 Post subject: Re: Shadowlands Deck Needs Help!
PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:06 am 
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Just a few quick suggestions:

Yajinden Sensei--He changes which personalities you can run, but he's so strong.

Dynasty:
Daigotsu Kanpeki, Unleashed
Daigotsu Jemaru

Fate:
Spider Elite Sohei (Probably switch out for the Nezumi.)
Assault Unit
Show of Power
Standing Fast--Depending on which attachments you eventually decide to run.

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 Post subject: Re: Shadowlands Deck Needs Help!
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Thanks for the suggestions. This is a work in progress.


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 Post subject: Re: Shadowlands Deck Needs Help!
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We should have neat little starter deck tips and tricks stickie post to help out new players! :D


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 Post subject: Re: Shadowlands Deck Needs Help!
PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 2:39 pm 
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OnlyTheSpiderIsSafe wrote:
We should have neat little starter deck tips and tricks stickie post to help out new players! :D


If I built decks like this, I'd be more than happy to help. But I don't build from starters (except for the one kotei with a sealed deck). I usually look at all the cards and build from there... even when a base set drops. Then I borrow/buy the cards I need and play! :D

It's very hard for me to start with something very suboptimal and try to make it good. Especially when the deck is based off of the weakest mechanic (fear) in the game. :evil:

In all honesty, unless you are in a new playgroup and are just looking for fun games to help get familiar with L5R, then you should always look at the entire cardpool and build a deck from that. Figure out what you want your deck to do and then post it up to bounce ideas around with other players. I'm not knocking your deck, bud. I know people have limited means to build the best decks. I'm just saying it's hard for ME to help out when I know there is better stuff than a slightly modified starter deck. I'm sure other people on the boards can help out better than I. That's why I was wondering what your deck was trying to do in my first post. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Shadowlands Deck Needs Help!
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I understand Sparks.


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 Post subject: Re: Shadowlands Deck Needs Help!
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:02 pm 
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Drgnmrph wrote:
It's 20 festival deck plus added cards.

Fear attack deck is what I was thinking.


I personally believe that Fear is fairly solid mechanic with a lot of support and you can make a really strong fear deck, so I am going to throw a few cards out there for you to consider.

If you not already familiar with Card Searching Database. I'd Recommend you do some research for what you want just set the legality to "A Brothers Destiny (twenty Festivals)"

I'd Recommend getting a Yajinden Sensei for your deck as it improves Fear significantly and lets you run some otherwise unplayable (honorless heavy) people.

As pointed out by titanomach, Daigotsu Kanpeki, Unleashed & Daigotsu Jemaru are very strong cards that I feel you'll be happy with.

You could consider running Moto Daigoro but he'll lose you a lot of honor as the sensei will only protect your from your "Human Shadowlands" personalities and he's Nonhuman. The same with Keppo & Noekam.

For whatever crazy reason Voitagi is Undead but not Nonhuman so I think he is incredibly strong for his Gold cost.

As Sparks & MirumotoDaisuke mention Shiho is very strong and is a staple in most military spider (and other) decks.

I would get rid of Daigotsu Meguro as he is pretty bad and doesn't really help with your fear theme.

You could also consider
Daigotsu Kendo
Daigotsu Konishi
Daigotsu Zenshi (if your running followers)
Goju Kenteiru
Goju Saido
Kokujin Dairu (Destined is amazing value)
Tairao
The Twisted One

The most import thing to remember is that all of these people are viable, in fact most spider personalities are it all depends on actions & attachments your running to support them so try to consider your deck as a whole when selecting people. I for example wouldn't run Zenshi without lots of undead followers & Yajinden. Or Kenteiru without enough cavalry followers to allow him to solo a province.

In terms of Holdings Picking up Coastal Lanes, a third nexus of lies, Famous Bazaar's are all really strong and solid staples for a gold scheme you can consider adding other holdings to support you deck like Akodo Dojo etc...

In terms of your Fate side, you've actually got a lot of strong cards in there already but that being side a little refinement couldn't hurt.
To Consider
Victory Through Difference
Okura is Releashed (3 of)
Ensorcell Longsword
Way of the Spider (3 of)
Ring of Earth
Accessible Terrain
Looming Darkness

A lot of good fears are on Followers ...
Zlky's is a really strong card and I'd recommend a third. Legion of the Khan is one the best currently legal followers there is, Spider elite sohei I believe has already been mentioned, the thundering Death is a fairly new card it has proven very strong in my play group.

There are so many strategies it's almost impossible to give you the perfect deck, this is really something that you will develop as you play more and research into game.

I hope this helps even a little, welcome to the Spider Clan Family.

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 Post subject: Re: Shadowlands Deck Needs Help!
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Being an old school player myself, may I ask: would you rather be playing a blitzy/swarmy-type kind of deck?

Or would you rather be playing big bad-ass monsters?

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 Post subject: Re: Shadowlands Deck Needs Help!
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if you mean blitzy like run over opponents, stop them into a mud-hole or worse then laugh at their corpse or what's left then yes.


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 Post subject: Re: Shadowlands Deck Needs Help!
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I think he means, "do you prefer playing with a horde of expendable goblins, or a couple big unstoppable oni?"

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 Post subject: Re: Shadowlands Deck Needs Help!
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Wow no one got my evil joke there...ok.

Horde of expendables that way i can keep throwing them at opponents.


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 Post subject: Re: Shadowlands Deck Needs Help!
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If that is the case, you could use this as a baseline:

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1728

It focuses mainly on getting as many bodies as fast as you can and swarming your opponent out.


If you want something out of Yajinden Sensei, this is the latest development I've seen so far:

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1742


Goodluck!

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 Post subject: Re: Shadowlands Deck Needs Help!
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Thanks


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